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Its sad that animals aren't treated like humans when its just a human soul in an animals body. I would make a donation but im broke:(
Comment by Taylor Wed Dec 14 17:24:14 2011

People like to chose extreme positions. Neither conveniently ignoring the negative aspect of invasive plants nor being hard line about preserving "native" plant assemblies is very productive. The middle road, wherein sensibility often lies, makes much more sense. Each situation/plant has to be examined individually to make any sense of the problem. It has to be noted though that we can't necessarily accurately predict what will happen when we introduce new plants, so I tend to advocate for caution in such matters... the precautionary principle... weigh the potential consequences and lean your position accordingly.

I fight nasty invasives on my place every year and more show up on our shoes or tires or whatever. True, many are more aggressive in disturbed environments, which any homestead has plenty of but others, like tansy ragwort, need little help and increase exponentially. Yes, someday a balance may be achieved wherein the plants slowly become part of a community through the mechanism of naturally evolving checks and balances, but that will be a long time coming in evolutionary terms and for now they continue in growing numbers to decrease total plant diversity which is often held, and justly, as the sign of health in most ecologies. I hope to blog on this subject eventually as I've butted heads with both sides on numerous occasions. Thanks for being a voice of reason!

Comment by turkeysong Wed Nov 30 13:50:21 2011
I'm glad I could help! You've gotta love any kids who collect dead bugs. :-)
Comment by anna Wed Jul 27 16:45:20 2011
What great photos! My summercamp kids found a dead moth just like this on our playground this moning. We were able to identify it using your pictures. This particular group of children have been finding all kinds of dead "critters" for us to identify. We have been very busy with our ever growing bug collection.
Comment by Karen Mon Jul 25 11:56:37 2011
Thanks Anna for the concern,I would ask four quiz(1)what material if used would provide a strong and durable support for the raised water tank fully loaded say 40,000.00 litres? (2)which pipes,plastic or metallic? How about the pipe internal diameter? (3)I need a skeleton structural design to guide the laying down of the pipes to inlude angles n connections at junction points(4)In seasons where rain is erratic,I would like the system to support watering an adjacent green house with tomatoes and other horticultural crops,but how? Kindly send in your advice,photos of the house is available on request.Thanks pmutaiya@yahoo.com
Comment by Peter Mutai Sun Feb 6 07:47:07 2011
I'd love to help you out, Peter, but I'm far from an expert. That said, I (and our readers) could probably give you better advice if you ask a more specific question. What exactly are you most stumped by?
Comment by anna Wed Feb 2 11:37:38 2011
I have recently build a permanent house in a rural set up where i grew up.My bigger dream is to have an efficient rain water collecting system that would solve water shortage problem we have faced all a long.i have already purchased two KENTANK( heavy plastic tanks) and intend to put one below the level ground so all the the water from the gathers drain into it and subsequently with the use of a small pedrollo horse pump powered with electricity,water is pumped to a tank raised six meters above the ground.once up supply to the internal toilet and bathroom should by gravity I need advise on how to do it nicely to cover efficiency,reinforcement,durability,capacity and aesthetics address pmutaiya@yahoo.com country Kenya East Africa home town Kericho
Comment by Peter mutai Sun Jan 30 09:41:04 2011
We've looked into hydraulic rams several times, and I always have to re-look the information up to see why it won't work for us. The first deterrent is the price tag --- even building your own, it looks like you need to spend at least $100 on parts. But more important is the elevation issue. You have to have at least 5 feet of elevation drop between the inlet and the pump, and our creek is flat as a pancake. The same problem that bogs down all of our hydroelectric dreams...
Comment by anna Sat Jan 15 18:51:43 2011

Keep in mind that bends in the pipes (especially right angles) can have as much resistance as several yards of pipe (depending on flow rate, diameter etc.)

For pumping water from the creek, you might want to look at a hydraulic ram as an alternative to an electric motor driven pump. It can use the kinetic energy of flowing water to pump water up. It's main benefit is it's simplicity; it has only two moving parts, and can be made from very basic materials.

Comment by Roland Smith Fri Jan 14 15:45:56 2011
If your final prediction is right, that gives a flow rate of 2.4 gallons per minute, which is actually quite good. Since I suspect pipe lengths would be less than 100 feet, it sounds like the tinacos might have our system beat... :-)
Comment by anna Thu Jan 13 20:02:09 2011

Warning: Maths ahead :-)

Assuming laminar flow for the moment, according to the Hagen-Poiseulle equation (only valid for laminar flow!), volume flow is:

Q = ΔP·π·d⁴/(128·μ·L)

For laminar flow, the Reynolds number should be <2300;

Re = Q·L/(ν·A)

where

  • Q: volume flow in m³/s
  • ΔP: pressure difference in Pa (1 bar = 10⁵ Pa)
  • d: pipe diameter in m (1 in = 0.0254 m)
  • μ: dynamic viscosity in Pa·s (10⁻³ Pa·s for water @ 293 K)
  • ν: kinematic viscosity in m²/s (10⁻⁶ m²/s for water @ 293 K)
  • L: pipe length in m.
  • A: pipe cross-sectional area in m² (0.00051 m² for 1 inch pipe)

For 30 meters (100 feet) of pipe, this gives 0.034 m³/s (9 gallons/second).

Now we need to check our assumptions! With this flow, the Reynolds number is 2·10⁹. So in this situation there will not be a laminar flow, and the above calculation is invalid.

So now you need to use the Darcy-Weisbach equation to determine the volume flow. This is where it gets complicated. For this calculation you will need to know something about the roughness of the inside of the pipe, to get at the Darcy friction factor, which depends on the Reynolds number, which depends on the volume flow. :-/ Calculation now becomes an iterative process.

You can use this online calculator to play with the numbers. For a 30 m long 1 inch pipe, you'd get around 0.0015 m³/s (0.4 gallon/s) for a 1 bar pressure loss (assuming a friction factor of 0.019).

Here in the Netherlands, water pipes in homes are typically 10 mm inner diameter. For the same length of pipe and pressure, that would yield 0.00015 m³/s (0.04 gallons/second).

Comment by Roland Smith Thu Jan 13 17:09:47 2011

Faith --- That's right along the lines I was thinking. I love looking at "less developed" countries for tips on how to survive when the power goes out.

Roland --- I was looking into water pressure a month ago when Mark and I first started thinking about bladder tanks. It seemed like there's a wide range of acceptable flow rates in municipal water systems, maybe because of different pipe sizes? It seemed like our flow rate (1 gallon per minute) was in the realm of ordinary, but at the low end. Can you do a quick conversion for me and tell me what flow rate you'd get at 1 bar of pressure with one inch pipe?

Comment by anna Thu Jan 13 10:02:56 2011

Ikwig --- Mark's a big fan of white noise and usually brings a little fan with him on trips, but we left it at home this time in the interest of packing light. You're right that it almost certainly would have made a difference.

I suspect we'd use the train a lot if it didn't take us 3 and a half hours to drive to the station... :-)

Comment by anna Thu Jan 13 09:59:35 2011

I come from a train-riding family - almost all of our trips are planned around where a train goes - and we are always trying to convince others of the joys of train riding, so I'm especially happy that you two had such a great experience!

One note on the sleeping experience: it will get better with practice. After a few more trips you should find that the motion is actually quite soothing (rather like rocking on the waves in a boat), and the noise becomes less noticeable as well. However, in regard to the latter, some people find it helps to put on a little white noise (a room fan or some such) a few nights before their trip - just to get conditioned to it.

I hope you have many more good experiences on the train! :)

Comment by Ikwig Wed Jan 12 15:25:50 2011

You need 30 feet of height to get one bar of water pressure. Looking at the height the tank sits, I'd say the pressure is not much.

Out water mains here are supposed to have two bars of pressure.

But for a tap you don't need much. It is just that with lower pressure you need bigger pipes to get the same volume flow. Just look at a typical old-fashioned toilet with the reservoir close to the ceiling. Those flush really well, using a pipe that is about an inch thick.

Comment by Roland Smith Wed Jan 12 14:28:58 2011
These would be useful in the U.S. for areas where the snow puts the power out for a week or so at a time.
Comment by Faith Wed Jan 12 10:53:16 2011
Thanks so much for the bird IDs! I was using a very generalist field guide with just a few pages of birds since we weren't there long enough for me to spring for a real Mexican bird field guide. I had a feeling I wasn't getting it quite right...
Comment by anna Mon Jan 3 18:31:33 2011

Hi there,

FYI "Rufous Piha" is actually a ruddy woodcreeper, another specialist species following the army ants. I was in Yucatan for Christmas too and found 5 army ants waves, but only had one northern barred woodcreeper (the one you got on top). Nice job !!

Comment by alban Sun Jan 2 10:18:36 2011

Wow!

Those are some amazing images. I had no idea we had so many colorful mushrooms in this area.

mark

Comment by anna Wed Dec 8 18:41:52 2010
SOS
I highly recommend it, especially if you have a stream close to home. I keep meaning to add our creek to the monitoring roster. Maybe next year I can trick a few people into helping me and add it to the list.
Comment by anna Wed Nov 3 17:23:03 2010

This is a great project idea! Around here I am working with our local land trust on a watershed management project but I have recently been thinking of ways to contribute without traveling too far from home. We have an organization here that supplies the equipment, but only to classrooms not individuals. I'd love to start monitoring the stream right across the road from me on my neighbor's property, and it just might be a project of mine to start the local SOS chapter. Thanks for the resources!

Sara

Comment by Sara McDonald Wed Nov 3 09:32:59 2010

Amy --- I think you're right that starting with something smaller and safer is a better start. I like the idea of being somewhere that it's not so dangerous to be out by yourself, so you can make mistakes and really learn.

Kelly Jo --- I really appreciate you saying that about barking orders. That was my gut feeling too --- that an instructor shouldn't just be yelling at us. I was feeling a bit burned out by the experience, but Mark talked me into going out again more locally in an easier setting so that we can, hopefully, put a better taste in my mouth!

Comment by anna Sun Oct 24 08:56:29 2010
Alas, it is true that sailboat captains do bark orders, however, it was unprofessional to bark at people who are learning from you. If this was a racing crew, going fast, the yes, there would be lots of yelling and colorful language. We would not take guests who were inexperienced out on the lake when it was blowing 30, and if we did it would be a tightly controlled lesson. We both race and cruise on a 46' Tartan and a 36' Santana and we have many years of experience and race flags behind us. Don't let anyone tell you this is normal behavior. Also, don't give up on the sailing experience just because you ran into one jerk.
Comment by Kelly Jo Sat Oct 23 22:38:34 2010
I took sailing lessons as a Girl Scout in little 8-foot boats called Sabots - sometimes with one other person in the boat or occasionally solo. With little boats like that, you can capsize them and right them yourselves - in fact, I think we did so deliberately, to practice - and there's no instructor in the boat; they taught us things on land each day and then we went out to practice them. It was awesome; maybe you could find something like that?
Comment by Amy Sat Oct 23 22:11:56 2010
Good point about the renovations --- I forgot to mention that. Plus, I was highly impressed by the way the proprietor had our key ready for us when we walked in the door. I've noticed that some hotels don't know how to deal with people who book in advance through third party websites, but Village Inn was on top of it.
Comment by anna Thu Oct 21 19:59:44 2010

Everyone seems to agree with you that barking orders is pretty much par for the course (although I think there's a difference between a captain and an instructor --- the instructor should try to do more than just bark orders.) You'll see in Mark's post tomorrow that his thicker skin let him shrug off more of the day.

The more I think about it, the more I think that the weather was the real problem, and maybe we just had ourselves to blame. We looked at the weather forecast, saw "windy", and thought that was a good thing, but in the future we'll try to keep our plans a bit more flexible so we can sail in easier weather at first.

The bigger boat did make frequent jibing a bit safer. Like the other boats out that day, we didn't even put the mainsail up, and the boat was so big that when the jib jibed, it didn't come anywhere near us.

Comment by anna Thu Oct 21 19:57:25 2010
Actually yelling orders is pretty normal for a captain. Basically, when sailing particularly in stronger winds, you have very little time to respond or make a decision. Also, fast is what boats are about. But it did sound like you got a sucky day. As a frequent small boat sailor (I took several years of lessons at a sailing school on either 18ft hobys or 14 lasers and raced them. I would be hesitant to go out in that kind of wind on the bay with newbies even in boats that i was very familiar with. or a much bigger boat without a good experienced captain. Response time is vital. a girl next to me lost a tooth by not ducking fast enough when I warned her the boat was about to jibe. and every year tehre were a few boats that sunk due to crashing into each other.
Comment by Rebecca Thu Oct 21 16:14:11 2010

I agree with Anna. The Village Inn had a very warm and cozy feeling. I especially like the fact that the room was quiet and dark.

There is clear evidence that they are in the middle of some upgrades so by the time you read this they may have added a few items of newness.

If felt good to stay somewhere with a little character as opposed to the sterile feeling all the chain hotels seem to emanate.

Comment by mark Thu Oct 21 09:49:55 2010
I had a feeling I wasn't the only one disappointed by my first Canon photos.
Comment by anna Fri Sep 24 07:21:21 2010
wow, this is a BIG help....I had a Kodak Easyshare and was feeling like this camera was no better than it, I actually considered returning my canon! but i cant wait to try out your tips, i thank you!!
Comment by heather m Thu Sep 23 11:56:35 2010
I don't know why I didn't think to tell you about this --- it's even more up your alley than it is up mine!
Comment by anna Thu Sep 16 08:06:26 2010
I really wish I could be there to see them! I'll be awaiting those blog updates. :-)
Comment by anna Thu Sep 16 08:05:25 2010
i have got to go check this out! prontisimo!
Comment by nellieappleby Wed Sep 15 22:10:59 2010
well you are a cheeky thing anna, and i love it. thanks for posting about my exhibit and giving me a jab to blog more often. Ok! I'm on it. but first i gotta spritz the art. :)
Comment by nellieappleby Wed Sep 15 22:08:57 2010
"The males tend to have the yellow spots more reduced above, and to have more reflective blue scaling on both sides. The angle of the photo may cause one to look more blue than the other too, since it is reflective coloring, and it doesn't show up the same from different angles. Both genders a little variable in markings though, so it's not always easy to tell them apart by pattern alone. They do tend to loose some of the blue as they fade too, but these two both look pretty pristine to me. Upper one is male, lower is female."
Comment by anna Wed Aug 25 10:41:40 2010
My sketchbook is chock full of those flowers, and I constantly wrote appreciatively of your finding skills in my journal. We made a good team!
Comment by anna Mon Aug 9 07:50:48 2010
I was like your private investigator for finding things in nature. An explorer. I really think I saw wild boars, and luckily am still alive. I also collected many of the seedpods and fallen flowers that fell on the ground for you to draw.
Comment by maggie Sun Aug 8 16:16:58 2010
I loved the canopy walkway! I can't believe I was quite so cheap, though, as to get permission to get in free. (Well, I mean, I can believe it. It's true, and I'm still cheap. :-) ) I think we probably could have afforded to pay to get in....
Comment by anna Sun Aug 8 13:50:34 2010
Yup, I remember that day clearly, and am still ashamed...
Comment by anna Sun Aug 8 13:49:04 2010
One day which happened to be Easter, the dogs followed us to Quaker Meeting. I do not know if you recall, Anna. But I think the Friends would have preferred silent worship minus the dogs. One of them left and walked "our" dogs home.
Comment by maggie Sun Aug 8 11:00:45 2010
Anna and I spent a lot of time on the canopy bridge. Anna had worked out a deal with the naturalists that gave us access to the Monteverde Cloud Forest Preserve any day that we wanted it. We spent some of that time sitting on that canopy bridge, and spending our time in interesting ways. Once we did an experiment to see how tall the bridge was by dropping things off the bridge and timing their fall to the forest floor. I think we found it was 50 feet up.
Comment by maggie Sun Aug 8 10:58:02 2010
I don't think I knew about the mealy bug when I was there --- that was a fascinating addition to the symbiosis.
Comment by anna Sun Aug 8 10:56:04 2010
I really learned a lot about ecology while living with Anna those months. I got to get my hands dirty with nature and to learn first hand about concept like symbiotic relationships. It is so fantastic to think that the tree benefited from the ant and so did the mealy bug.
Comment by maggie Sun Aug 8 10:48:34 2010
I've been looking for someone to exchange language lessons with, but finding someone seems to be harder than you might think. So far, I have the local librarians looking out for someone for me --- they do often have Hispanic folks turn up who are specifically looking for books to help them with English, so maybe they'll be able to hook me up with a conversational partner. Next time we go to the Mexican restaurant, I'll ask there too. I know we have quite a Hispanic population right around where I live, but finding someone seems to be harder than one might think.
Comment by anna Sat Aug 7 20:52:19 2010

I think there are a number of things people can do.

  1. Volunteer for an immigrant center (I did that in Highlands NC). There are other locations that help immigrants near you gain skills, and collect food and clothes for unemployed ones.

  2. APEC (our local peace group) used to have an anual fiesta in which they shared food and celebrated immigrants, while exchanging language skills. There has recently been talk on the Apec Discussion list about possibly doing something like this again. I will send you the stream of emails if you want.

  3. That is why I think you and Mark should extend your Spanish learning beyond eating out at Mexican restraunts. Imagine what it would be like if you located a Spanish speaker who wanted lessons and you exchanged language lessons with them. Like the idea?

Comment by anna Sat Aug 7 20:49:47 2010
I accidentally deleted your comment in moderation. I'm reposting it as me below.
Comment by anna Sat Aug 7 20:48:40 2010
I haven't read that book, but I did read a review of it. I certainly know that since we moved to the farm and spend so much time outdoors and just, in general, looking out at the world, I've been a lot more focused.
Comment by anna Sat Aug 7 20:43:31 2010

I recommend you read Last Child in the Woods by Richard Louve.

Mom has my copy and is reading it now.

It goes into some extensive detail about how ADD and ADHD increase when children are not exposed to nature.

Comment by maggie Sat Aug 7 20:35:43 2010

You've got a good point that Monteverde, especially, was very bilingual. But the English-speakers probably weren't the old timers I would have needed to talk to to learn ethnobotany. Instead, what I learned about plants was filtered through the American scientists, which did give me a fascinating perspective, but perhaps not a well rounded one.

I agree with everything you said about immigration, and would add that immigrants fill a lot of jobs that Americans are too spoiled to fill. But I'm not sure what the common person can do about it. (Except vote against leaders who try to put through laws like the ones recently enacted in Arizona.) Any ideas?

Comment by anna Sat Aug 7 20:33:34 2010
That's the gist of our microbusiness ebook. I hope that school systems in Appalachian will start to realize that teaching kids skills like search engine optimization and writing are just as marketable as auto mechanics and cosmetics.
Comment by anna Sat Aug 7 20:30:36 2010






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